Comments on: Women are no delicate flowers – so says this feminist

By: Suricou Raven

Suricou Raven — Wed, 05 Aug 2009 09:35:46 +0000

The crisis pregnancy centers could probably improve their respectability a bit if they were to put together some sort of organisation with a commitment providing medically accurate information and not misleading women into entering. As a pro-choicer, I know the rumors that circulate about them – the three major objections are that they trick women into entering (typicially by refering to themselves as ‘clinics’ without disclosing their purpose), that they impart very dubious medical claims to women (Abortion causes breast cancer, their fetus can feel pain, etc – things that are, at best, disputed), and that they will seek to use emotional manipulation (Not just ultrasounds, but 3d or 4d enhanced ultrasound. One famous case includes a machine that was configured to print out photos with the caption “Hi, Mommy!” beneath).

I can’t see this happening though, because trickery, lies and manipulation are three of the most effective techniques at the centers’ disposal. Without that, all they have left is asking politely.

By: Julie Culshaw

Julie Culshaw — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:20:16 +0000

Wow, Jeannie, thank you for your honesty. Yours is the first honest answer I have got to that question.

By: Jeannie

Jeannie — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:56:48 +0000

Good point Julie – I think one big reason we don’t discourage teens from engaging in sex is that too many of us have been guilty of it ourselves. We don’t want to feel like a hypocrite for saying, “don’t do as I do, do as I say”. But we have to find a way to get past that – to break the cycle and teach them a better way.

By: El

El — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:32:42 +0000

I’ve been saying that for years. I’m still puzzled as to how people fall for the idea than an ultrasound viewing is a “scare tactic.” Reality isn’t a tactic.

Suzanne A, that’s about the jist of it. Why else would they be so upset over sidewalk counsellors? Why is a woman deciding not to kill her baby of such concern for them? The only honest answer is that every woman who changes her mind outside the abortion mill means at least $500 less for them. Don’t trust someone trying to sell you something.

By: Julie Culshaw

Julie Culshaw — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:27:49 +0000

Why are not more of us questioning teens engaging in sex in the first place? the real reason for abortion is the sexual revolution, so why are we not trying to stem that tide? It has caused abortion, rampant STIs, broken families, depressed children, the list goes on and on. Yet everyone’s sexual relationships are considered off-limits to discussion.

By: Suzanne A.

Suzanne A. — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:33:44 +0000

Even if women try to make informed choices, the methodology of abortion clinics make it very difficult. Take a look at the updated website of the Morgentaler clinic and you will see a list of “facts”. While in themselves they are probably accurate as “facts”, they discount the many areas of difficulty for women, and make it look like abortion is the best thing that a woman could ever do for herself.

Anyone – like a kind sidewalk counsellor who cares enough to share the truth with women – who tries to offer women information that is contrary to that presented by the clinic workers, or more accurately, essential for making a truly informed choice, is given a very hard time by abortion clinic employees. What is it that is so threatening about providing the truth? Perhaps the fact that if more women knew what abortion really does to their bodies and their babies, then clinic workers’ jobs would be in jeopardy. That’s the only explanation that I can think of.

By: SUZANNE

SUZANNE — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:52:23 +0000

Women are able to make any choice for themselves.

Except the choice between an abortion clinic and a pregnancy centre. On that point, they’re completely incompetent and must be protected.