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What did Dawkins really mean re: DS babies?

August 27, 2014 by Faye Sonier 3 Comments

I’m sure you’ve all heard about Richard Dawkins’ tweet regarding unborn children diagnosed with Down Syndrome.  He was asked what should be done if a woman discovered she was pregnant with a child with DS. His response:

Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice.

Josh Brahm over at the Equal Rights Institute decided to get to the bottom of the story. I’m not a Dawkins defender, but I hate being taken out of context. I can’t say that Dawkins was, but Josh made an effort to determine Dawkins’ perspective. And I appreciate that. He then made some thoughtful follow-up comments:

How does Dawkins justify his views about abortion and DS? He wants to minimize suffering. He doesn’t want to destroy DS babies because he’s evil. He thinks they will suffer and killing them does not cause them to suffer and so in order to create a world with the least amount of suffering, you kill those kids before they become a person deserving of rights. That’s still wrong, but notice what’s motivating his view. He’s trying to stop suffering. He’s not intending to be insulting to parents of DS children.

While I disagree with his methods, I agree with and appreciate his goal of reducing suffering. We disagree about whether abortion reduces suffering, or if it did, whether or not that would justify it. Richard Dawkins is hostile to most of my values, but we can find common ground with anybody.

And the depressing reality is that Dawkins’ ultimate perspective is not that different from many people’s. As Dawkins’ says in an article he posted as a follow-up to the Twitterverse explosion:

Given a free choice of having an early abortion or deliberately bringing a Down child into the world, I think the moral and sensible choice would be to abort. And, indeed, that is what the great majority of women, in America and especially in Europe, actually do. […] Your child would probably have a short life expectancy but, if she did outlive you, you would have the worry of who would care for her after you are gone. No wonder most people choose abortion when offered the choice.

It’s a whole sad state of affairs.

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  1. Josh Brahm says

    August 27, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Thanks for posting the article! 🙂

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  2. Andrea Mrozek says

    August 27, 2014 at 9:57 am

    I could say a lot but let me just add this: Twitter is not the place to be asking for or giving advice on this subject.

    Josh, thanks for your work.

    Reply
  3. Dan says

    August 28, 2014 at 10:10 am

    If the goal is to reduce suffering, might as well just wipe out the entire human race.
    Richard Dawkins demonstrates very clearly why we need religion. Not that all atheists are morally bankrupt, but Dawkins and his followers certainly are. Reducing the influence of religion in the world, as Dawkins wishes to do, will only lead to more of the same.

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