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Woah: Re-living last week

October 3, 2012 by Andrea Mrozek 6 Comments

It’s uncanny how much this sounds like what Canadians experienced last week with Rona Ambrose. From the UK:

The Conservative minister for women has backed calls for a reduction in the legal limit for abortions, because advances in medical technology mean many very premature babies now survive after birth.

And the response of pro-abortion advocates: (Deliberate use of term “pro-abortion” here, in case anyone is offended by that. Ask me why!)

Darinka Aleksic, the campaign co-ordinator for Abortion Rights, said: “The fact that the minister responsible for women and equalities wants to restrict access to abortion, one of the most important women’s health services, is really alarming.”

It doesn’t matter what the reason is (this UK minister cites scientific development whereby we see babies live at younger and younger ages), some of these abortion rights folks balk whenever abortion is being restricted for any reason at all.

They stand for abortion rights, not women’s rights, and the two have virtually nothing to do with each other.

 

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  1. David says

    October 3, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Agreed, vis a vis ‘abortion rights’, not ‘women’s rights’, is what some people are after. I would add that the ‘philosophical’ basis for some of this thinking is founded in the untenable ‘whatever I want, when ever I want’ idea so eloquently captured by lyricist by Mark Sultan. Though ‘whatever I want whenever I want’ is confounded by every thing every moment, whether it be the physical universe getting in the way or someone else’s ‘wants’, some people continue to abide with this concept of freedom. Not a new idea. Milton wrestled with it; ‘the good love freedom the rest love license’ conveys there is a difference between freedom and license. Isaiah spoke of the idea a few thousand years before; ‘each after their own way’. It seems to me that it would be worth while jettisoning this faulty idea of ‘whatever I want whenever I want’ and pursuing understanding of freedom.

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  2. Andrea Mrozek says

    October 3, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    David, what books would you recommend for pursuing understanding of freedom?
    thanks,
    Andrea

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  3. Jennifer Johnson says

    October 4, 2012 at 2:00 am

    It’s very true that the pro-aborts always try to take the focus off what the issue is really about. Women’s rights have nothing to do with abortion. The life and rights of the unborn baby is the one being taken not hers. (Though if she gets the abortion it could be her life too because they still do kill women.) Abortion isn’t good for anybody involved it only destroys one life and maims another. True feminists are for all women’s rights even the little women in the womb. 🙂

    I’m curious why did you say “pro-abortion” you said to ask you about it. 🙂

    “pro-abortion”

    http://voiceforhope.blogspot.com/

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  4. Andrea Mrozek says

    October 4, 2012 at 9:51 am

    Hi Jennifer:
    thanks for asking. 🙂 I reserve “pro-choice” as a term for the mushy middle, people who have never really given abortion too much thought and they are not malicious or ill-intentioned, and would be somewhat aghast to be labelled as pro-abortion.
    “Pro-abortion” is a term I reserve for activists immersed in the issue, who know full well what is at stake and insist on fighting for abortion anyway. Perhaps they even profit financially from their enthusiastic support of abortion, and they love to confuse women’s rights and “abortion rights.”

    it’s a subtle thing, and in debates I stick with the known terms of pro-choice and pro-life.

    This is my personal distinction, which may not make any sense to others at all, but to me, there is a difference. Finally, I don’t like it when pro-lifers get too strident with the terms, thereby alienating people who might otherwise come round to our way of thinking.

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  5. Jennifer Johnson says

    October 4, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Hi Andrea,

    You are very welcome. I can see your points on those. 🙂 We have to be really careful how we do speak to others because you are right that is the goal is to change people’s thinking on abortion and if you insult them they will never listen to you.

    I hope that you will visit my new pro-life blog!

    http://voiceforhope.blogspot.com/

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  6. Squander Two says

    October 5, 2012 at 12:50 pm

    Couldn’t agree more. Some people are pro-choice; some people are pro-abortion. They’re not the same thing.

    I’m a great believer in calling things what they really are, which is very much the opposite of the trend in modern politics.

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