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I’m gestating on this one…give me a moment

March 6, 2008 by Andrea Mrozek Leave a Comment

What a letter.

I wasn’t sure how to title this post: “No need to debate abortion, but a definitive need to speak clear English” or how about “Pro-choice letter writer admits we are all just in various states of gestation…the quintessential pro-life point” or finally, “Yes! I’m in a state of gestation too.”

One small point on this letter to the editor: A debate can’t occur in isolation, in someone’s mind. That’s not a debate, that’s solitary contemplation. And women and men don’t contemplate abortion unless they are challenged to do so. Let me reiterate a point I’ve made before: An unexpected pregnancy is a very bad time to contemplate one’s views on abortion for the very first time.

Muriel Beauroy’s views are profoundly anti-woman, and I might add, contrary to making an informed choice.  

But keep up the good work, incoherent pro-choicers! Only makes my job a whole lot easier.

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Brigitte scratches her head in acute puzzlement:

To those who bemoan the conscience of many women on this matter, I would simply remind them that at any given moment vast numbers of women are in a state of gestation, visibly or not, to term or not. This is quite natural and private.

So we don’t need to bemoan the conscience (or, more aptly, lack thereof) of women because vast numbers of them are gestating even as we speak? Well, if that’s the pro-choice position, things are looking up indeed.

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: , ban debate, Muriel Beauroy, National Post, York University

Celebrating the tube

March 6, 2008 by Véronique Bergeron Leave a Comment

Most debates on futility considerations revolve around mechanical feeding and ventilation. If I had a dime for every time I heard “feeding tube” and “futility” in the same sentence, I would be laughing at my student loan by now. This is why I was compelled to share this little nugget of everyday life with you.

One of my friends suffers from a degenerative disease that attacks her muscle tissues. She has difficulty feeding herself since her caloric intake is entirely consumed by her degenerating muscle mass. I recently asked her husband how she is doing this winter (the cold season is never a happy time for people who have a hard time breathing) and he got really excited telling me about her new feeding tube. She gets all these extra calories with the push of a syringe; she’s getting better colour and putting on weight. She hasn’t been that sick at all this winter.

Quality of life improved by feeding assistance… Think about it, it happens.

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: futility, GI tube, pro-life, quality of life, tube feeding

Bill C-484 passes second reading

March 5, 2008 by Andrea Mrozek Leave a Comment

Bill C-484, the Unborn Victims of Crime bill, passes 147 to 133 in the House this evening.

(This is the bill that would make the murder of a pregnant woman count as two murders. If you want to read more about it, we’ve commented on it here, here, here and here. It now goes on to committee for discussion and debate. After that, it will return to the House for a final vote, and only then will finally go on to the Senate. That’s how I understand parliamentary procedure, anyway…)

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: Bill C-484, Ken Epp, unborn victims, Unborn victims of crime

The horror!

March 5, 2008 by Patricia Egan Leave a Comment

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What to do, what to do – my children clash with my drapes.  

Do you think that maybe we were all better off when we had as many kids as we could so they could all work on the farm? 

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It comes down to this

March 5, 2008 by Andrea Mrozek Leave a Comment

Elizabeth from Prince Edward Island wrote in to our site with this comment. We don’t normally publish comments as posts, but we are making an exception for this one, as Elizabeth doesn’t likely have much time before her friend goes and gets an abortion. If you want to offer your advice to her, we’ll forward it on, and publish the best comments at the end of the week, as usual.

I just found your website today and I really appreciate everything that you are doing.

I recently graduated from university and this story from York U aptly illustrates what pro-life students must face. Our views are considered on par with Holocaust deniers, white supremecists and wife beaters.

I live on Prince Edward Island, where you cannot get an abortion on demand. You must travel to New Brunswick and convince a panel of doctors why you should have one. Abortion Rights advocates habitually decry this situation as a violation of a women’s human rights. Myself, I am extremely proud of this situation and hope that it my province continues to stand out in North America as a place where babies are not killed.

Having to leave the Island to get an abortion requires women to put additional thought into their choice and really consider what they are doing.

A friend of my roomate (who lives in another country) is currently planning on an abortion. She originally was going to have the child, but is now worried it will jeopardize her relationship with the father.

I would like to try and convince this woman to change her mind and keep the child, as I doubt she would regret it, but my pro-choice roomate is against this and said she would be angry if I interfered. She does not believe this woman is mature enough or ready for parenthood.

What do people on this site think? Should I try and interfere? I just think that she would never regret giving birth, even if she ultimately chooses adoption. And can you imagine meeting the person whose life you saved?

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The squeaky wheels of student unions

March 5, 2008 by Andrea Mrozek Leave a Comment

Reasonable people have reasonable concerns about abortion-and, I might add, about pro-life arguments.

But you don’t find reasonable people at student unions, for the most part. And you certainly don’t find them at “women’s centres.” (That’s a place on campus the vast majority of women just don’t go.)

Yet these are the people who have power, as we’re seeing at York right now. They are the quickest to take offence, and their voices are the loudest. Precisely because they are completely unreasonable, they are heard.

The reasonable students are studying, playing sports and doing whatever it is students do.

These centres represent a fringe, barricade mentality: They are trapped in 60s ideology and unable to move with the times.

I’m glad Ms. Kelly Holloway of the York University Graduate Students Assocation banned the abortion debate: It highlights the strange alternate universe she inhabits for all to see. And I thank her for the national, front-page coverage on the abortion debate that never was.

Perhaps soon we can all move on a little from the notion that pro-lifers are the extreme ones here.

cross-posted to The Shotgun.

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: abortion debate, Feminist nonsense, Jojo Ruba, Kelly Holloway, York University Graduate Students Association

Poser la question, c’est y répondre

March 4, 2008 by Brigitte Pellerin Leave a Comment

On the front page of today’s National Post. Is abortion too hot a topic for campuses?

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: National Post, York University

Down Syndrome and misinformation

March 4, 2008 by Véronique Bergeron Leave a Comment

Enthusiastic as I am about the information campaign lead by the Down Syndrome Society, I can’t help but wonder to what extent their efforts aren’t compromised by their unwillingness to face the abortion debate head-on. Not wanting to state that abortion can be wrong, their argument is based on a contradiction: How can you explain to a family facing a prenatal diagnosis of Down Syndrome that any selfish reason is enough to abort any fetus except for theirs? Is their decision less right than that of a 30-something who forgot to take her pill?

The problem with the whole information campaign is that it does not address the root of the problem — which is, incidentally, the root of the abortion argument — that is, rampant individualism. As long as we uphold rampant individualism as the flagship of liberal society, we can inform people until we are blue in the face, nothing will make self-sacrifice palatable, as “Paul” so aptly demonstrated on our Comments page. Not even calls for more diversity.

Don’t get me wrong: I believe eugenic abortion is as wrong as any abortion, and I also believe that expecting parents are misinformed. But I wish that pro-abortion advocates who feel squirmy about genetic abortions would say something against abortion, at least in the one regard. Have the courage of your convictions–it’s liberating.

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Patricia adds: I agree with Véronique that, if abortion is wrong, then it’s wrong, whether it’s for eugenic reasons, for reasons of “sex selection” or because I have a beach holiday planned. For most feminists, the right to abortion is a great cause for celebration, except when the fetus aborted is a girl and it’s aborted because it’s a girl. For the pro-choice parent of a child with DS, the objectionable reason for abortion is the DS. Neither is a morally coherent position.

That said, as a parent with a child with Down Syndrome, I understand why the people who run the CDSS are so particularly appalled with the eugenic effect of maternal screening and prenatal testing programs that are offered as part of good prenatal health care in Canada. I think that for most of these parents, it’s one thing to recognize a generic “woman’s right to choose” out there somewhere. After all, for most of their lives, they’ve been told that the only reasonable enlightened position. But now, all of a sudden, that right to choose is being exercised to eliminate kids like yours from the face of the earth. Suddenly, you find that it’s your child who is treated as a mistake who somehow slipped through the cracks of good prenatal care. (I know, I’ve used that phrase before.) And your status is “freakish” as you realize that there are fewer and fewer parents like you around. That is an eye-opening experience for many people, I think.

And also, I think that there is a bit of an epiphany that happens when you have a child like this, especially if it’s not something that you ever anticipated touching you personally. You realize that this thing that everyone seems to think is so awful, that should be avoided at all costs, is probably one of the better things that ever happened to you. As one parent writes about his daughter with DS “she has enriched my life to a degree I didn’t think was possible. She changed my whole focus on life, on what has value and what doesn’t have value, and what we consider valuable.” Not surprisingly, you get a bit evangelical about it. (There was an article on just this point in the Ottawa Citizen on the weekend.)

 Now, obviously, I’m hoping that this epiphany will make these parents and other people realize that they should reconsider their whole position on so-called “unwanted” human beings. It is, to me, the only logical conclusion that can be reached from this starting point. But even if they don’t get any further on that road, at the very least, it seems to me that their stories help to undermine the whole ethos of “kids as lifestyle accessories” and the rampant individualism that underpins this view of children.

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: Down Syndrome, Down syndrome society, genetic abortion, information, selective abortion, trisomy 21

Proper palliative care is a right, not a privilege

March 3, 2008 by Véronique Bergeron Leave a Comment

Heard an interview on my local CBC morning show with Loïse Lavellee. The interview began this way: “Robert Latimer. To some he is a monster. To others, he is a kindred spirit…”

The essence of the interview was that Lavellee sympathized with Latimer on a very personal level: She also lost a disabled child, her daughter Éloïse. If I heard correctly over the morning chaos of my house, Éloïse died of natural causes after being denied life-sustaining treatment. “Latimer,” Lavellee said, “didn’t get that chance. So he had to take his daughter’s suffering into his own hands.” When asked what she had to say to disabled people who felt threatened by the whole Latimer affair, Lavellee said she understood their fear but that “the issue with Tracy was not her disability, it was her pain.”

But can Tracy’s pain and disability be so easily separated? I have read that Tracy’s pain control consisted of Tylenol. Whether that’s all she was able to take or all she was allowed to take is irrelevant. Either way, Tracy’s unrelenting pain could not have been so easily ignored had she not been disabled.

I once asked one of my teachers in bioethics how much of the euthanasia debate hinged on improper research, investment and education in palliative care. He thought about it for a minute and said: “Most of it.” 

Tracy didn’t have a right to die. But she did have a right to proper, effective, medical care which included adequate pain control. The system failed her and she paid with her life.

Filed Under: All Posts Tagged With: Latimer, Loise Lavelle, pain control, palliative care, Tracy

New comment page up

March 3, 2008 by Andrea Mrozek Leave a Comment

This week’s comments are posted, here.

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